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Wednesday, December 2, 2015

Cooking with Tender Buttons Food: Mutton. Stanzas 7-13. Discussion 2

THE BOOK ..........................-      TENDER BUTTONS
THE SUBBOOK ...................-      FOOD
THE SUBPOEM ...................-      Mutton
WORD COUNT (Total)……...-      534
STANZA(S)............................-      13
—Stanzas 7-13
THE LEADER........................-      THE STEINY ROAD POET
CO-LLABORATORS.............-      MODPO STUDENTS/THE BUTTONS

The second half of “Mutton.” does not seem to elicit much of Gertrude Stein’s biography except in stanza 7 a wider lens on the sadness she experienced at the end of her medical studies when she was dumped and duped by May Bookstaver. Generally speaking, stanzas 7 through 13 seem to rise to mythology—the Jewish creation myth—but then back into an American myth about George Washington as a youth chopping down his father’s cherry tree.

Here are “Mutton.” stanzas 7 through 13 with a 367-word count. Among the topics addressed in this post are: Gertrude Stein as hunter picks through the shards of her failed medical career; creation myths, including the golem and Pandora; food taboos and nourishment; The Word as Seed; in a primitive market with food hanging from the ceiling; cherries evoking virgins and the young George Washington; cake from suet; the moral edge of cake re: Shakespeare's Twelfth Night; Gertrude Stein at Woods Hole and whalebones; and the connection between Tender Buttons and Moby Dick.

Melting and not minding, safety and powder, a particular recollection and a sincere solitude all this makes shunning so thorough and so unrepeated and surely if there is anything left it is a bone. It is not solitary.

Any space is not quiet it is so likely to be shiny. Darkness very dark darkness is sectional. There is a way to see in onion and surely very surely rhubarb and a tomatoe, surely very surely there is that seeding. A little thing in is a little thing.

Mud and water were not present and not any more of either. Silk and stockings were not present and not any more of either. A receptacle and a symbol and no monster were present and no more. This made a piece show and was it a kindness, it can be asked was it a kindness to have it warmer, was it a kindness and does gliding mean more. Does it.

Does it dirty a ceiling. It does not. Is it dainty, it is if prices are sweet. Is it lamentable, it is not if there is no undertaker. Is it curious, it is not when there is youth. All this makes a line, it even makes no more. All this makes cherries. The reason that there is a suggestion in variety is due to this that there is a burst of mixed music.

A temptation any temptation is an exclamation if there are misdeeds and little bones. It is not astonishing that bones mingle as they vary not at all and in any case why is a bone outstanding, it is so because the circumstance that does not make a cake and character is so easily churned and cherished.

Mouse and mountain and a quiver, a quaint statue and pain in an exterior and silence more silence louder shows salmon a mischief intender. A cake, a real salve made of mutton and liquor, a specially retained rinsing and an established cork and blazing, this which resignation influences and restrains, restrains more altogether. A sign is the specimen spoken.

A meal in mutton, mutton, why is lamb cheaper, it is cheaper because so little is more. Lecture, lecture and repeat instruction.

I see again Gertrude Stein's reaching back to origination, the source of creativity and nourishment, illumination, the tiny glowing seed that will become a tree of wisdom and light.” Mary Armour

AFTER HUNTING FOR THE BIG GAME, LEFT WITH A BONE

Starting at stanza 7, Karren Alenier said:
Melting and not minding, safety and powder, a particular recollection and a sincere solitude all this makes shunning so thorough and so unrepeated and surely if there is anything left it is a bone. It is not solitary.

“The scene set by the words of this stanza (safety, powder) makes me think of hunting which is often done as a solitary sport where the hunter goes into a blind to wait for the prey.

“There in that absolute solitude from people. One has time to recollect. If Gertrude Stein is the hunter, she may be reflecting on her failed medical career, a failing that might have made certain people she knew shun her. 

“Maybe that solitary bone refers to ‘a bone to pick’—does Stein have a beef with someone? Maybe there is more than one bone to pick and that's why she says ‘It is not solitary.’”

Peter Treanor answered,
Yes, Karren, I can see the safety, powder and solitude having to do with hunting and maybe it’s not solitary as the prey or the thought of the prey is ever present. And maybe melting is melting into the environment, becoming camouflaged, and melting into the moment, not minding, not thinking, just being.

“But when I read it, it seemed to have a really sad, mournful tone. A sense of melting, of loosing of self. A particular recollection, a memory of serious/sincere solitude and loneliness and of being shunned. She was stripped to the bone by this experience, unsure if there was anything left of her by this experience. Could it be her rejection by May that she is recalling? The bone to pick could be with May.”

Alenier added:
“I agree, Pete, about the mournful tone & how the melting might go to just being as opposed to doing.

“This hunting around for survival calls up the white hunter in Objects!”
A white hunter is nearly crazy.


THE SEEDS OF KABALLAH

Stanza 8 is clearly connected to the earth in a way that comments on our existence. Here’s what Alenier had to say:
Any space is not quiet it is so likely to be shiny. Darkness very dark darkness is sectional. There is a way to see in onion and surely very surely rhubarb and a tomatoe, surely very surely there is that seeding. A little thing in is a little thing.

“Perhaps, Stein is reaching into the myths of Kabbalah here and one of the clues might be the medieval spelling of tomato with an 'e' on the end. 

“Also I'm remembering that commentary on Jewish laws including the food laws are contained in Mishnah. This link might be useful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeraim

Here Steiny will interrupt to say that seeds and a little thing are important to Stein and point to her creations/babies (books) that Alice will midwife (by typing and packaging them).

Off on a tangent but calling this a news flash, Alenier went deeper into the Mishnah to look at Bikkurim, the first fruits where she discovers related to a group of gender diverse people:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikkurim_(Talmud) I'm looking at this webpage which talks about what you do with the first fruits from your garden.”

Bikkurim (Hebrew: ביכורים‎, lit. "First-fruits") is the eleventh tractate of Seder Zeraim ("Order of Seeds") of the Mishnah and of the Talmud.

“The fourth chapter [of Bikkurim}, which is only sometimes included, originates from the Tosefta Bikkurim. It compares the laws relating to men, women, and those of intermediate sex, including the tumtum (one with no genitalia) and the androgynos.

“Big gender discussion here! Surely Stein knew about this.”


FOOD TABOOS & NOURISHMENT

Always an able interpreter of Stein, Mary Armour offered:
“I do think we are touching on food taboos, on forbidden pleasures, on the right and proper and improper uses of food. I think we're looking too at rituals and the deep maternal and childlike needs around nourriture, what nourishes the body and spirit. What melts down and is transmuted or transformed into liquid, what enriches and darkens or rises as a soufflé, what changes when heat is applied.

“The repeated references to bones as well, the charnel house of bone and ash, the shunning of dangerous small bones in fish or quail, the bones as structuring the body and the seed that is planted and dies to become something green and flowering or fruiting. (Thinking of André Gide's Si le grain ne meurt...)

“Let me give this some more thought.”

Alenier responded:
“I heartily agree that Stein is dealing with ritual, taboo, and life-sustaining nourishment!

“That little thing in is a little thing could be a seed. What kind of seed looms large! Vegetable, human—semen, conceptual?”


THE WORD AS SEED

Gaining momentum, Armour added:
“Karren, let me just riff here for a moment because something comes back to me about the seed as spark—Stein is particularly interesting to us as a writer because she has this omnivorous cultural and theoretical absorption, taking in so much from all kinds of cultural and theological influences and, perhaps here, we could reach back to Logos spermatikos, the Word as Seed, the Word as Light from the Gospel of John ('In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ...and the Word became Flesh") a mysterious and potent statement.

“And then of course we have the emanations of the Sephirot and the fragments of light or seeds as sparks (my interpretation here leans to Lurianic, from the Shattering or Shevirah), A key text cited here is Gen 1:11—"And Elohim said, 'Let the Earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth.' And it was so.

“This is too complex a field and I'm not sure how to sustain or follow through on metaphors here at any depth or even sure-footedly, but I see again Gertrude Stein's reaching back to origination, the source of creativity and nourishment, illumination, the tiny glowing seed that will become a tree of wisdom and light.”

Alenier responded:
“Yes, Mary! I see hear where you are pointing—origination! Makes perfect sense Stein would start at the beginning to establish her thoughts/study for how to renew the language. Humbly I say it is like us her students digging into the root meanings of the words she chooses.

“This is also why we get glances of Medieval flourishes. Tomatoe vs tomato.”

Greeting Armour warmly, Treanor had this to say:
Hello Mary nice to see you back again! There is the seed there and the source of creativity and nourishment, but there is also a darker side. A feeling of death, aging, and decay. All those bones, all those not any more's, no more's, lament, darkness and even an undertaker, a ceiling of dirt (nearly- a does it dirty a ceiling). There is something of the grave (both serious and a tomb) here. The whole cycle of life. Death and decay leading to fertilization and regeneration and seeds and regrowth. A feeling that the old (it is not when there is youth) must die, be buried, undertake to have an undertaker, be put in a receptacle, have a ceiling of dirt, and be reduced to bones.

“Melting and not minding
sincere solitude
if there is anything left it is a bone
were not present and not any more of either. (repeated 3 times)
A receptacle and a symbol and no monster were present and no more
Is it lamentable
Darkness very dark darkness
it is not if there is no undertaker
it is not when there is youth
 it even makes no more

“Such somber language and then finished with a strange thought about mutton (?old age) and lamb (?youth) suggesting lamb (youth) is cheaper because it is little but then that little is more. Leaving me wondering does she mean it is more or less valuable than mutton (old age)?

“I’m supposing you have the saying Mutton dressed up as lamb, too. Mutton and lamb used to indicate age.”


STEIN’S VERSION OF THE CREATION MYTH

Excited but Treanor’s musing, Alenier said:
Mud and water were not present and not any more of either. Silk and stockings were not present and not any more of either. A receptacle and a symbol and no monster were present and no more. This made a piece show and was it a kindness, it can be asked was it a kindness to have it warmer, was it a kindness and does gliding mean more. Does it.


I think Stein is doing two things here simultaneously. First of all she is invoking the creation myth with the mud and water and that monster which is likely to be the golem, a man-like creature created from mud. Except her invocation comes from a negative stance. The actual creation is some kind of sculpture. So Stein is pointing to the making of art.”

While Treanor didn’t know about the golem, he brought Pandora to this exchange:
“I never knew about Golem being part of Jewish folk law, given life by inscribing Hebrew symbols on its forehead.

“Feels like the Frankenstein story, the monster brought to life by man and I was reading somewhere recently about Zeus's punishment to Prometheus, part of it was to fashion Pandora from clay, breath life into her, and give her as a companion to man. The silk and stockings seem to suggest the female.

“And does gliding mean more, what is this gliding I wonder?”

Alenier answered:
Wow, Pete, that's an amazing connection comparing the golem to Pandora!
And look at that Pandora misconception! Not Pandora's box but her jar!
Stein talks about receptacle. here. Going to look up receptacle.”

re•cep•ta•cle (rɪˈsɛp tə kəl)
n.
1  a container, device, etc., that receives or holds something.
2  the modified or expanded portion of a plant stem or axis that bears the organs of a single flower or the florets of a flower head.
3  a contact device installed at an electrical outlet, equipped with one or more sockets.

[1375–1425; Middle English (< Old French) < Latin receptāculum reservoir =receptā(re) to take again, receive back (frequentative of recipere to receive) + -culum -cle2]

The repetition of the word kindness makes me think a Stein is talking gender. Some how receptacle & kindness are related. Perhaps this is coded sex talk.
Stein is saying this is not dirty. The silk stockings are not on the body. We have the possible meaning of sexual parts of flower and the gliding.

Going into high creative gear, Treanor offered:
“Mud and water    were not present  and not any more of either.
Silk and stockings  were not present  and not any more of either.

“A receptacle + |
a symbol +     |-    were    present and no more
no monster    |    

“So mud, water, silk and stockings were not present and not any more (does she mean not existing by not any more?) So can they be discarded as unimportant or is it the fact that they are not there that is important? Would whatever happened not happen if they were there?

A receptacle, a symbol and no monster (so not a monster?) were present. So is it these conditions that make the this in- 
This made a piece show and was it a kindness,
            it can be asked was it a kindness to have it warmer,
                          was it a kindness and does gliding mean more. “Does it.

“So a receptacle, and a symbol, and something that wasn’t a monster (or maybe nothing, just the absence of a monster) made a piece show. This is set up as if it is a description of something that happened. But what is the piece/peace?
Then she poses questions. Was a piece show a kindness? Or maybe was it a kindness to let the piece show? 

“Then asks was it a kindness to have it warmer? (what has made what warmer? Emotionally warmer or warmer in temperature?),
And asks was it a kindness again.
Then seemingly unrelated to what has gone before asks does gliding mean more.

“The only things that seem present are a receptacle, a symbol, a piece, kindness, warmth and gliding. All the rest of the words seem to not really add to the meaning they just seem superfluous, misleading and/or misdirecting. They seem like smoke and mirrors and an elaborate way of saying nothing, of saying what wasn’t there, of sending the piece around into a circle going nowhere. Nowhere in the sense of conveying meaning anyway. It seems like a very elaborate way to convey something other than meaning, but what could that other something be?

Maybe boiled down to the essence, she is talking of a symbolic receptacle that made a piece (something) evident and is she wondering if this is a kindness. Inherent in the question is that she thinks there is a possibility it might not be perhaps. Was it cruel or kind this event, this showing? the gliding, the warming and the receptacle do seem like they could be coded sexual language.”

Alenier responded:

By opening Pandora's receptacle (a strictly forbidden act, all sorts of disaster were let loose on the world.

“Pete, your analysis of what actually exists in this stanza, also leaves us with kindness. In my way of thinking, any occurrence of the word kind points to the same-sex relationship that Tender Buttons explores. Stein is saying there was no monster, no mud (dirt), no fancy clothing (silk and stockings).”

Stepping back a bit to reflect, Treanor offered:
“Karren, I think I was feeling particularly grumpy when posting and reading about what was and wasn’t in this passage. I remember feeling really irritated with her— ‘What on earth are you doing writing all this stuff about what apparently isn’t present?’ She does annoy me from time to time!

“But then I’ve been thinking about it and if you look at a piece as you would a painting, that the spaces between the objects in/on a painting, the space between the objects, is the thing that defines the shape of the object. The crafting of the ‘not there’ defines the shape of what is there, and wondered if there was something of that in her writing so much about what isn’t present as well as what is. A sort of defining the object by filling in the space around it in some way. Not sure if there is anything in it, but it has been an idea that keeps popping up in my mind in the last few days. 

“The things that seem present a receptacle, a symbol, a piece, kindness, warmth and gliding are really interesting.

“A receptacle (?Pandora's jar, a container or a receiver) a symbol and a piece seem like they could be concrete objects. Warmth and kindness, could be emotions/ qualities, Kindness could be sameness, same sex-ness, and gliding sounds like it's an action or maybe a quality, a lack of friction perhaps.

“Most of them seem like there could be a sexual element to them, except also a symbol maybe. A symbol stands out to me as an enigma, what is the symbol, what is it symbolising?”

A PRIMITIVE MARKET WITH FOOD HANGING FROM CEILING


Not having a good answer to Treanor’s questions, Alenier moved on:

Does it dirty a ceiling. It does not. Is it dainty, it is if prices are sweet. Is it lamentable, it is not if there is no undertaker. Is it curious, it is not when there is youth. All this makes a line, it even makes no more. All this makes cherries. The reason that there is a suggestion in variety is due to this that there is a burst of mixed music.

“Does anyone feel like Stein has taken us into a primitive market where produce hangs from the ceiling of some rustic hut with a dirt floor?

In this stanza Stein talks about prices, ceilings, line and it made me think of a shop in a rustic hut.

“The mention of undertaker and youth makes me think a butcher shop specializing in mutton and lamb.”


CHERRIES EVOKING VIRGINS & YOUNG GEORGE WASHINGTON

However, the line about cherries changes the scene, Alenier continued:
All this makes cherries may be pointing to virgins as a follow on to the word youth.

“Not sure about the mixed music but maybe it has to do with sexual inexperience. For example, virgin whose cherry has not been popped, might scream in pain instead of pleasure in the act of sexual intercourse.”

The next comment from Alenier came after the Buttons Collective moved on to study “Breakfast.”:
“Thanks to TerI Rife who brought up the Suffragettes around the word dainty which is used to excess in "Breakfast.", I now see some new things in stanza 10 of “Mutton.”—cherries evoke the myth of George Washington chopping down his father's cherry tree where the 6-year-old George is said to have told his father, I cannot tell a lie. Is it lamentable, it is not if there is no undertaker. Is it curious, it is not when there is youth. All this makes a line, it even makes no more. All this makes cherries. Here Stein asks, was this something to grieve? No, the boy lived true (not under taken by the devil) and told the truth. Therefore, the incident was not strange (curious) because GW was a boy (youth) and while it was quite an admission of guilt (a line but not a lie), the father could forgive and that made George the apple of his eye (if not a sweet cherry).

“The burst of mixed music could be patriotic music speaking of GW's prowess to come as the first president of the United States.”

Teri Rife responds on the subject of lament:
“A lament is a song, piece of music, or poem expressing sorrow. Music for the dead. So "lamentable" ties to "undertaker" and "...a burst of mixed music." And, of course, there is the pairing: variety/mixed.”

Then Rife follows up on the word dainty:
“I've taken a closer look at the word dainty more closely, since Stein gets really wound up about it by the time we get to ‘Breakfast.’. The usage of this word peaked around the year 1900. It's very much a term related to food, as a noun. A dainty is a tasty tidbit. But, underneath, its Latin root is dignus--worthy. Worth(y) certainly ties to prices. I think it also ties in nicely to the George Washington idea.

“So far as the Suffragettes are concerned, I think it's karma that when the snarky members of the patriarchal society used the word dainty to try to shame them, they were really identifying their worthiness. Maybe Stein thought so, too.”

Responding to Rife, Alenier added:
“What a powerful & elegant analysis! Your discoveries about the use & root of dainty are so helpful in appreciating why Stein is repeating that word.
As in math, I think her use of the negatives is a way to show how large the playing field is. Ergo, no lament, no dirty ceiling, no agent of death! Instead youth & cherries. Also that mixed music as if to say there is a party.”

CAKE FROM SUET

Moving on to stanza 11, Alenier said:
A temptation any temptation is an exclamation if there are misdeeds and little bones. It is not astonishing that bones mingle as they vary not at all and in any case why is a bone outstanding, it is so because the circumstance that does not make a cake and character is so easily churned and cherished.

“Something that is not held in high esteem is going on in this stanza. We have temptation, misdeeds, and little bones. But there is also a high measure of passion in words like exclamation, astonishing, and cherished.

“Cake made me think this use had something to do with the fat from mutton. Well, suet is made from either beef or mutton fat. AND I was excited (but also disgusted) to see that suet is used in British pastry making and puddings. So what could be more tempting than such sweet culinary items? (in Stein's day, not ours, we know better about that fat).

“Ever heard of Spotted Dick (a pudding made with raisins and suet!)?

SHAKESPEARE’S MORAL SPIN ON CAKE

Here Steiny will stop to look at the origin of the word cake which seems to be important to Stein through out section 2 Food. In this stanza, Stein combines cake with character. Here’s what the Oxford English Dictionary has to say about the origin of cake:

Origin
Middle English (denoting a small flat bread roll): of Scandinavian origin; related to Swedish kaka and Danish kage.

This is a Scandinavian word and the first cakes were small flat bread rolls baked hard on both sides by being turned during the baking process—you can see the idea of a rounded flattened shape surviving in fishcake and potato cake.

The word occurs in many common expressions as something pleasant or desirable. The phrase cakes and ale, for example, means ‘merrymaking, a good time’. It comes from Shakespeare's Twelfth Night, when the roistering Sir Toby Belch says to the puritanical steward Malvolio: ‘Dost thou think because thou art virtuous there shall be no more cakes and ale?’

The idea behind the saying you can't have your cake and eat it is that you cannot enjoy both of two equally desirable but mutually exclusive things. The expression has been around since at least the mid 17th century.

Let them eat cake is what Marie-Antoinette (1755–93), wife of Louis XVI (1754–93) of France, is alleged to have said on being told that her people had no bread. (The French word she is supposed to have used was brioche, not cake.) This story is good, but its authenticity is suspect—Louis XIV's wife is supposed to have said ‘Why don't they eat pastry?’ in a similar situation.

What Steiny finds deliciously important here is the association to Shakespeare's Twelfth Night and Malvolio line, ‘Dost thou think because thou art virtuous there shall be no more cakes and ale?’ Tender Buttons has a decided moral edge, so having cake be associated with those who are not virtuous as judged by a virtuous person is very important.

WHAT DO BONES HAVE TO DO WITH SWEETNESS?

Moving along, Alenier said:
“I just noticed that stanza 11 uses the word cherished and Stanza 10 uses the word cherries.

“Rootwise these words are not related but visually they are 
cherI shed
cherrI es

“Also both have to do with sweetness.”

Stepping back to take an overall look, Treanor observed:
“Its a strange thing for an ex-medical student to say bones mingle as they vary not at all, as they do vary, in shape and size anyway, all bones have a distinctive shape, unless they are a set of the same bones like rib bones maybe. I suppose they don’t vary in terms of their form (what they are made of), hardness and function though. And why are they outstanding? Is this to do with their hardness? They stand, stand out because they are so hard, they support the whole weight of the body.

“But what circumstance does not make a cake? Many circumstances do not make a cake. There are many not one, as she suggests. In fact, only a very particular set of circumstances does make a cake. Why is she suggesting there is only one? A birthday or Christmas or other celebration is a circumstance to make a cake. Bones don’t suggest a celebration, they suggest death. A cake is usually baked and it is soft, not hard.

“Are bones being churned? sounds like she could be making a gravy, soup or broth.

“Cake and bones do sound a bit like Xmas to me, Xmas cake and the bones of the turkey being made into a lovely broth. But it sounds more like bones without the circumstance for a cake, so bones without a celebration? Is there death here, a churning of emotion and the cherishing of someone/ something lost? Is she Cut to the bone, getting down to the bone, stripped to the bone?”

Alenier picked up Treanor’s musings on bones as follows:
It’s a strange thing for an ex-medical student to say bones mingle as they vary not at all, as they do vary, in shape and size anyway, all bones have a distinctive shape, unless they are a set of the same bones like rib bones maybe. Peter Treanor

“Pete, I've been thinking about what you said above and wonder if she might be talking about bones used in women's corsets.

“Gertrude might have been versed on whalebones when she was studying marine biology at Woods Hole in Massachusetts.”

Feeling more enthusiastic, Treanor replied:
“Oh, yes! I see what you mean, Karren, temptation, misdeeds, circumstance, churning and cherishing. Misdeeds and corsets (little bones) is she being a little racy I wonder? Is not making a cake and character some kind of euphemism? Maybe the bones in a corset keep the figure smooth and not varied and maybe the little bones being removed (outstanding) leads to this thing (not making a cake) that is easily churned and cherished. The cherished and cherry thing make it feel like it could be erotic.”

Moving along to the last two stanzas of “Mutton.”, Alenier continued:
Mouse and mountain and a quiver, a quaint statue and pain in an exterior and silence more silence louder shows salmon a mischief intender. A cake, a real salve made of mutton and liquor, a specially retained rinsing and an established cork and blazing, this which resignation influences and restrains, restrains more altogether. A sign is the specimen spoken.

A meal in mutton, mutton, why is lamb cheaper, it is cheaper because so little is more. Lecture, lecture and repeat instruction.

“Now that I see the whalebone connection and the Woods Hole possibility, I'm thinking these last two stanzas pertain to the summer she spent studying marine biology—that word specimen is a strong clue and the lecture and repeat instruction.

“Mentioned in the discussion about what whalebones were used for was a cable-backed bow—in the mouse and mountain and a quiver subpoem, quiver might refer to the portable case for holding arrows.

“Stein also uses the word restrains which puts me back in mind of the corset made with whalebones. Also the word pain.”

Alenier also offered this:
“Among Picasso's circle of close friends was André Salmon. Salmon, Picasso, Apollinaire were pranksters so it could be Stein is pointing to Salmon as the mischief intender.

“Could the mouse be Alice? Could the mountain be Gertrude? 

“Is Stein showing us the studio where she posed for Picasso when he painted her now famous portrait?

“And don't forget in those days Picasso was poor. So all this talk about what is cheaper would be meaningful.”


Steiny uses whalebones to make announcement of this discovery that happened months after the discussion of “Mutton.” took place. Steiny believes that Gertrude Stein used Herman Melville’s Moby Dick as a model for writing Tender Buttons. Moby Dick, like Tender Buttons, is a tale about morality involving a same sex relationship. Steiny will be talking about this more and how she got to this epiphany soon.




Participants: Karren Alenier, Mary Armour, Judy Meibach, Teri Rife, Peter Treanor

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